For those of you out of the loop, “Sixteen” was a survival program for JYP’s upcoming girl group Twice. It has already been five years since JYP has debuted a girl group (miss A). Out of the 16 girls, 7 were supposed to debut in the group. This show was to see which seven members was going to debut. The seven girls were placed in the “Major” group and the other nine were placed in the “Minor” group. There were missions to see which members would trade places, and usually at the end of a mission, someone from the Minor team would be eliminated.
(This is a long post and contains spoilers if you haven’t seen the last episode or read the spoilers yet.)
At the start of the last episode, there were 12 members left, and the 7 remaining in Major were: Sana, Mina, Natty, Jihyo, Chaeyoung, Somi and Minyoung. The five Minor members were Nayeon, Jungyeon, Tzuyu, Dahyun, and Chaeryung.
After both teams performed their songs, it was finally time for JYP to select the members of Twice. Before we get to the actual lineup, this is the lineup I was expecting/hoping for before today’s episode aired: Nayeon, Jungyeon, Tzuyu, Sana, Mina, Jihyo and Chaeyoung.
The first member to be announced to return to Major from Minor was Nayeon, which should have surprised no one. She has the leadership qualities, the looks, the talent, the popularity, etc. Nayeon has always been near the top of the MILK poll, and ended up second. Nayeon replaced Natty, and it was no surprise Natty was eliminated. She’s young and her voice isn’t fully developed. She sounds like a J-idol when she sings. I think she’ll be an asset for JYP’s next girl group, but not this one.
The second member to be announced to return to Major from Minor was Jungyeon, which again shouldn’t have surprised anyone. She has all of the qualities Nayeon has, and has been in the top three in popularity for most of the show. She replaced Somi, which has caused a shitstorm on forums such as One Hallyu.
Personally, I think Somi is ready to debut, but I would prefer that she waits a couple of years. The first is her age, as the laws would prevent her from participating on music shows. However, the biggest reason I didn’t want her to debut now is because she’s half Korean. She will receive a lot of hate for not being pure blooded, and as a fellow half Korean, I know that feeling all too well. Korea prides itself on being ethnically pure (unlike Japan, which has some minority groups such as the Ainu, and China, which has a lot of minority groups.) There’s nothing wrong with that if you’re not a cucked SJW. However, if you don’t fit into the majority, you’ll get shit on. There will be fans saying “It’s okay, she’s a celebrity and she’s pretty, so she’ll have a lot of fans.” Of course she will, but she’ll also receive a lot of hate for not being a pure-blooded Korean, and that’s too much for a 14-year-old middle school girl to take. She’ll be mentally stronger in a few years, look better, and be more talented after a few more years of training.
Next, Dahyun replaced Minyoung. This shocked me for several reasons. Dahyun has lost a lot of her appeal after the earlier episodes, and was just finally regaining it. I have a major problem with her rapping. It is bad, and I mean bad meaning bad. A lot of new idols subscribe to two styles of rapping: rapping with a deep voice and rapping as fast as you can. Dahyun just spits out words as fast as she can with no consideration to the beat of the song. However, I see why Dahyun was added to the group, as her talents lie in variety and attracting fans. If she’s going to be the second rapper of the group, I hope she practices a lot.
After episode 3 I had a feeling Minyoung wasn’t going to make, but being the best singer among the contestants, I thought she always had a shot to make it in. I never thought she was a shoe-in like most Sixteen fans. I feel like Minyoung would be better in a vocal group (or maybe a duo with Jiwon), as she doesn’t seem to have the qualities of an idol.
After this, there were no more switches between the Major and Minor members. I thought it was going to end here and I was shocked Tzuyu wasn’t in. I thought she was a shoe-in because she’s the most popular contestant in Sixteen.
Then JYP made an announcement that two more members were going to be added. “Okay, Tzuyu’s in for sure now,” I thought, and I was right. Tzuyu got in for being the most popular and showing the most improvement throughout the show. There most likely would have been a shitstorm if the most popular contestant didn’t get in.
For the last member, I expected Minyoung to be picked to add another vocalist to the group. However, Momo, who had been eliminated in an earlier mission, was selected by JYP. JYP said that it hurt him the most and it was the most disappointing when he had to eliminate her, but told her that she was someone who definitely had to be in the group and that his A&R team selected Momo to be in the group. I was shocked because I expected Minyoung to have that spot secured after it was announced that there would be two more members.
Now, onto the members of Twice.
Nayeon is an all-around member of the group, who is a visual and a lead vocalist. She’ll probably be the leader. I didn’t like Nayeon much at first, but over time she won me over.
After both teams performed their songs, it was finally time for JYP to select the members of Twice. Before we get to the actual lineup, this is the lineup I was expecting/hoping for before today’s episode aired: Nayeon, Jungyeon, Tzuyu, Sana, Mina, Jihyo and Chaeyoung.
The first member to be announced to return to Major from Minor was Nayeon, which should have surprised no one. She has the leadership qualities, the looks, the talent, the popularity, etc. Nayeon has always been near the top of the MILK poll, and ended up second. Nayeon replaced Natty, and it was no surprise Natty was eliminated. She’s young and her voice isn’t fully developed. She sounds like a J-idol when she sings. I think she’ll be an asset for JYP’s next girl group, but not this one.
The second member to be announced to return to Major from Minor was Jungyeon, which again shouldn’t have surprised anyone. She has all of the qualities Nayeon has, and has been in the top three in popularity for most of the show. She replaced Somi, which has caused a shitstorm on forums such as One Hallyu.
Personally, I think Somi is ready to debut, but I would prefer that she waits a couple of years. The first is her age, as the laws would prevent her from participating on music shows. However, the biggest reason I didn’t want her to debut now is because she’s half Korean. She will receive a lot of hate for not being pure blooded, and as a fellow half Korean, I know that feeling all too well. Korea prides itself on being ethnically pure (unlike Japan, which has some minority groups such as the Ainu, and China, which has a lot of minority groups.) There’s nothing wrong with that if you’re not a cucked SJW. However, if you don’t fit into the majority, you’ll get shit on. There will be fans saying “It’s okay, she’s a celebrity and she’s pretty, so she’ll have a lot of fans.” Of course she will, but she’ll also receive a lot of hate for not being a pure-blooded Korean, and that’s too much for a 14-year-old middle school girl to take. She’ll be mentally stronger in a few years, look better, and be more talented after a few more years of training.
Next, Dahyun replaced Minyoung. This shocked me for several reasons. Dahyun has lost a lot of her appeal after the earlier episodes, and was just finally regaining it. I have a major problem with her rapping. It is bad, and I mean bad meaning bad. A lot of new idols subscribe to two styles of rapping: rapping with a deep voice and rapping as fast as you can. Dahyun just spits out words as fast as she can with no consideration to the beat of the song. However, I see why Dahyun was added to the group, as her talents lie in variety and attracting fans. If she’s going to be the second rapper of the group, I hope she practices a lot.
After episode 3 I had a feeling Minyoung wasn’t going to make, but being the best singer among the contestants, I thought she always had a shot to make it in. I never thought she was a shoe-in like most Sixteen fans. I feel like Minyoung would be better in a vocal group (or maybe a duo with Jiwon), as she doesn’t seem to have the qualities of an idol.
After this, there were no more switches between the Major and Minor members. I thought it was going to end here and I was shocked Tzuyu wasn’t in. I thought she was a shoe-in because she’s the most popular contestant in Sixteen.
Then JYP made an announcement that two more members were going to be added. “Okay, Tzuyu’s in for sure now,” I thought, and I was right. Tzuyu got in for being the most popular and showing the most improvement throughout the show. There most likely would have been a shitstorm if the most popular contestant didn’t get in.
For the last member, I expected Minyoung to be picked to add another vocalist to the group. However, Momo, who had been eliminated in an earlier mission, was selected by JYP. JYP said that it hurt him the most and it was the most disappointing when he had to eliminate her, but told her that she was someone who definitely had to be in the group and that his A&R team selected Momo to be in the group. I was shocked because I expected Minyoung to have that spot secured after it was announced that there would be two more members.
Now, onto the members of Twice.
Lim Nayeon
Nayeon is an all-around member of the group, who is a visual and a lead vocalist. She’ll probably be the leader. I didn’t like Nayeon much at first, but over time she won me over.
Final performance fancam.
Jungyeon, like Nayeon, is a visual and most likely lead vocalist of the group. I’ve liked her from the start because of her chic vibe.
Final performance fancam.
Jihyo will end up being the main vocalist. She’s been in JYP’s dungeon since elementary school, so I’m glad she’s finally debuting. She’ll most likely be the leader if Nayeon isn’t the leader. While Jihyo isn’t one of my favorite members, I have always liked her because she plays to her strengths without resorting to vocal wanking.
Final performance fancam.
I like Chaeyoung as an idol, but given that she’s a rapper, I am naturally biased against her. As long as she doesn’t ruin songs, I’ll be fine with her.
Final performance fancam.
Dahyun will be one of the stan attractors and most likely the second rapper. I’m praying to the K-pop gods that she doesn’t rap or that she improves a shit ton before debut. If neither of those conditions are met, then I hope she has two-line raps like Yura does in Girl’s Day’s “Ring My Bell”.
Final performance fancam.
Mina is one of the Japanese goddesses in the group. She gives off the chic, sexy vibe and will be one of the lead dancers. She’s been one of my favorites since the beginning.
Final performance fancam.
Sana is one of the Japanese goddesses in the group. She’s the weird-as-fuck member that people will either love or hate, and I am behind Sana’s crazy ass.
Final performance fancam.
Momo is the last of the Japanese goddesses in the group. She’s the main dancer and the “Dat Ass” of the group. I was mad when she was eliminated and I am glad she is back.
Final performance fancam.
Tzuyu is the Taiwanese jailbait goddess in Twice. She’s been my favorite from the start.
Final performance fancam.
While I am looking forward to this group, there have been a shit load of whiners everywhere, complaining about their favorite member not getting in or that the show was unneeded. Tell someone like Tzuyu that this show was unneeded. She was an afterthought who had no chance to debut in the group without the show.
The point of shows like this is to draw attention to an upcoming group, and Sixteen worked because it got great ratings for Mnet. I probably wouldn’t care much about Twice without having watched the show. If Twice debuted with this lineup without the show, the only members I would be interested in would be the J-Trinity and Tzuyu. Having watched the show, I’m already a fan of all nine members and know them. I don’t have to spend months trying to figure out who is who like I normally would with most groups.
While people are complaining about the show, most of the complaints are about who is in the group. I won’t link the NB articles, but over there people are being talentfags and crying foul that POPULAR members are debuting in Twice. It’s a fucking idol group, not an opera group. Sure, it sucks that Minyoung and Jiwon didn’t debut, but the two lack in the qualities that you want in an idol. For idols, the most important quality to have is presence. Any “real” talents such as singing and dancing take a backseat. There are dozens upon dozens of idols who can sing and dance well, so it’s the intangible qualities that distinguish one idol from the next.
Talent isn’t something that is static, as it can be improved. The best in their respective circles don’t rest on their laurels. They work harder than anyone else to become the best. Idols, like anyone else, continually work to become better. That’s all that’s required because only the delusional expect idols to sing like opera singers. They’re singing pop songs that other composers create. If idols sing the songs they’re given how the composers want them to and continue to improve through training, they’ll be fine. Don’t fall into the illogical bullcrap Korean netizens spew.
In the end, Twice is going to be pretty fucking awesome and I can’t wait for them to debut.
Yoo Jungyeon
Jungyeon, like Nayeon, is a visual and most likely lead vocalist of the group. I’ve liked her from the start because of her chic vibe.
Final performance fancam.
Park Jihyo
Jihyo will end up being the main vocalist. She’s been in JYP’s dungeon since elementary school, so I’m glad she’s finally debuting. She’ll most likely be the leader if Nayeon isn’t the leader. While Jihyo isn’t one of my favorite members, I have always liked her because she plays to her strengths without resorting to vocal wanking.
Final performance fancam.
Son Chaeyoung
I like Chaeyoung as an idol, but given that she’s a rapper, I am naturally biased against her. As long as she doesn’t ruin songs, I’ll be fine with her.
Final performance fancam.
Kim Dahyun
Dahyun will be one of the stan attractors and most likely the second rapper. I’m praying to the K-pop gods that she doesn’t rap or that she improves a shit ton before debut. If neither of those conditions are met, then I hope she has two-line raps like Yura does in Girl’s Day’s “Ring My Bell”.
Final performance fancam.
Myoui Mina
Mina is one of the Japanese goddesses in the group. She gives off the chic, sexy vibe and will be one of the lead dancers. She’s been one of my favorites since the beginning.
Final performance fancam.
Minatozaki Sana
Sana is one of the Japanese goddesses in the group. She’s the weird-as-fuck member that people will either love or hate, and I am behind Sana’s crazy ass.
Final performance fancam.
Hirai Momo
Momo is the last of the Japanese goddesses in the group. She’s the main dancer and the “Dat Ass” of the group. I was mad when she was eliminated and I am glad she is back.
Final performance fancam.
Chou Tzuyu
Tzuyu is the Taiwanese jailbait goddess in Twice. She’s been my favorite from the start.
Final performance fancam.
While I am looking forward to this group, there have been a shit load of whiners everywhere, complaining about their favorite member not getting in or that the show was unneeded. Tell someone like Tzuyu that this show was unneeded. She was an afterthought who had no chance to debut in the group without the show.
The point of shows like this is to draw attention to an upcoming group, and Sixteen worked because it got great ratings for Mnet. I probably wouldn’t care much about Twice without having watched the show. If Twice debuted with this lineup without the show, the only members I would be interested in would be the J-Trinity and Tzuyu. Having watched the show, I’m already a fan of all nine members and know them. I don’t have to spend months trying to figure out who is who like I normally would with most groups.
While people are complaining about the show, most of the complaints are about who is in the group. I won’t link the NB articles, but over there people are being talentfags and crying foul that POPULAR members are debuting in Twice. It’s a fucking idol group, not an opera group. Sure, it sucks that Minyoung and Jiwon didn’t debut, but the two lack in the qualities that you want in an idol. For idols, the most important quality to have is presence. Any “real” talents such as singing and dancing take a backseat. There are dozens upon dozens of idols who can sing and dance well, so it’s the intangible qualities that distinguish one idol from the next.
Talent isn’t something that is static, as it can be improved. The best in their respective circles don’t rest on their laurels. They work harder than anyone else to become the best. Idols, like anyone else, continually work to become better. That’s all that’s required because only the delusional expect idols to sing like opera singers. They’re singing pop songs that other composers create. If idols sing the songs they’re given how the composers want them to and continue to improve through training, they’ll be fine. Don’t fall into the illogical bullcrap Korean netizens spew.
In the end, Twice is going to be pretty fucking awesome and I can’t wait for them to debut.
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